By North from USA on 2012-05-11 09:45:56

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Thanks Edith, good to know one is included in the Kit version. That is not fully explained anywhere I can find. As I mentioned in my review, I did purchase the UTG all metal carry handle and it works great. Also, as an update, I ordered three additional types of pellets for some testing.I went to the CMP range with the Crosman M4-177 and four types of pellets to try out. Up to this point, I have been shooting the Crosman 7.4 grain Competition Wadcutter. I have on multiple occasions shot a 572 out of 600. This was on the CMP 10 meter range simulated 200 yard target.I brought along the Beeman coated Wadcutter, RWS basic 7 grain Wadcutter, and the Crosman Premiere Super Match 7.9 grain Wadcutter.I started off running about 25 rounds of the Crossman competition wadcutters through the rifle to warm things up a bit. I then proceeded to test 30 rounds of each type, running 10 practice rounds of each through first.Here are the results (not quite what I thought they would be)Crosman Competition Wadcutter - 289/300Crosman Premiere Super Match Wadcutter - 285/300Beeman coated Wadcutter - 272/300RWS Basic Wadcutter - 255/300All shots were using the same four pumps from the sitting position with a table top support.Obviously the RWS Basics are either too light, or the gun just does not like them. I had a noticeable increase in flyers.The Beeman coated deserve a second look and some additional testing. There was a computer glitch that may have thrown the score off a few points.so, I went back to the range with the Beeman coated wadcutters, Crosman Completion wadcutters, and Crosman Super Match Premier wadcutters for another test. 60 rounds fired for each. Same conditions as the original testing.Results;Beeman - 527/600Crosman Completion - 572/600 (very consistent)Crosman Super match - 575/600So the two Crosman pellets are very close, if you are not striving for the best possible score, then the Crosman Completion Wadcutter is the best value. If striving for maximum scoring/accuracy, use the Crosman Super Match. Obviously, this Crosman gun likes the Crosman ammo the best, so it only makes sense to me to use them in this gun.I have to say for an $80 rifle, it can put up some impressive numbers, and it really seems to like the Crosman ammo the best. If you have an M4-177 and you have not tried the Crosman 7.4 grain Competition Wadcutter (it is the cheaper one to boot), you should give them a try. So far I have put about 3000 rounds through this gun and it’s consistency is very stable. Probably one of the best values out there! Now, if I can figure out how to convert one over to a precharged pneumatic configuration…………………

By Edith from USA on 2012-05-10 17:10:21

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MrMopar--A separate carry handle isn't available from Crosman, but that doesn't mean the M4-177 rifle kits don't come with them. They do. So, if you want a carry handle for your non-kit gun, you'll either have to buy an aftermarket part from another mfr or purchase one of the kits.